CHURCHES AND CHURCH SPEAKERS NEED TO STOP IGNORING GOD'S DIRECTIONS GIVEN IN 1 CORINTHIANS 14:29-37!

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I believe in Christian churches.

BUT, God did not intend the boring, one-man-show, spectator-sport, clergy-laity-caste system, we see operating in most churches.

The New Testament epistle (letter from Apostle Paul) 1 Corinthians 14: 

 29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

 30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.

 31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.

 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

 33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Again, in virtually all churches, we see the same boring one-man-show every Sunday, same, clergy-laity-caste system, spectator sport. 

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Repeating Saint Paul's words, inspired by God-The-Holy-Ghost, in 1 Corinthians 14:29-33:

 29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

 30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.

 31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.

 32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

 33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

I have heard of churches where NOBODY IS SCHEDULED TO SPEAK!

The main men meet before the service and try to figure out who GOD wants to speak.

The passage above plainly says the God-The-Holy-Ghost IS to direct the speaking.

This will not happen if God is preempted by a fixed speaker schedule made long before.

The Passage says if one man is speaking (verse 30), and something is revealed to another man, the first man should stop speaking, and let the second man speak.

God is to do the directing, not the whims of men.

The passage uses the word "prophets."

This means, in the New Testament sense, as inspired explainers of what God has said in the Bible.

NOT in the Old Testament sense as inspired writers of Holy Scripture.

Verse 29 says it is to be by two, or at most three.

AND OTHER MEN ARE TO JUDGETHIS IS INDISPENSABLE TO GUARD AGAINS WRONG TEACHING!

OBVIOUSLY THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN IN MODERN CHURCHES -- AND THIS IS NOT OK.

THE ENTRANCE OF ERROR IS A BIG PROBLEM.

Also, just as we need a variety of food, so we need a variety of teachings.

Each man adds something different that God has shown him.

Each man brings something different and important to the mix.

Verse 31 says "all may prophesy" that all may learn and be comforted.

Verse 32 and 33 tell us that we are to maintain control, our "spirits" being subject to us.

We have lost a very great deal of what God intended with our present one-man-show formats.

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Some say that the 1 Corinthians 14 deals with a "primitive" church, and is not applicable today.

I believe this is just a ploy and excuse to enable the clergy-laity-cast system and one-man-show system.

Nowhere does the Bible say the Corinthian was primitive.

The Apostle Paul was supervising, and plainly the Holy Ghost was enabling with spiritual gifts.

Furthermore, note verses 36 and 37:

 36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?

 37If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

St. Paul plainly says these things are THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD.

So that settles it right there.

We should be following these procedures in our churches today!

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Moving to verses 34-37, I want to note again, verse 37, that these things are the commandments of the Lord.

 34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

 36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?

 37If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

It certainly seems very old fashioned, even chauvinistic, to tell women not to speak.

But, God really DOES have reasons.

Verse 35 is NOT overstating the situation, "for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."

As I explain in detail elsewhere, the Bible CORRECTLY shows that GOD IS A STRAIGHT MALE.

Most teachers and leaders have made the bad mistake of holding that God is neuter.

Jesus Christ, in his numerous occasions of interpreting Scripture, plainly show the Bible MEANS WHAT IT SAYS.

God IS a straight male, as are all traditional fathers.

Manhood is the SAME gender as God.

Womanhood is the gender which is COMPLIMENTARY to God's straight, masculine being. 

This is critical, so that, TOGETHER, man and wife, correctly, publicly, display God's person.

Just as Eve was made to be a "helpmeet" (Genesis 2) to Adam, so God the Father's "her," Israel, and God the Son's "her," The Church, are to be helpmeets to the Father and to the Son.

Scripture speaks of "man and wife".

I'm so glad, that the minister at my daughter's wedding used this term -- "man and wife."

Rather than the wrong, but politically correct, term "husband and wife."

Verses 34 and 35 correctly state that a woman with a question should ask her husband at home, not anyone else.

Because the man personally represents God, this is the correct way of doing it.

Thus, it actually is a shame for a woman to speak in church, because to speak inevitably puts her in the position of an instructor or leader of men.

Again a man represents God, so she would be, virtually, and instructor of God.

This mistake often sneaks in unnoticed.

Sometimes a video is shown featuring a woman speaker, or a visiting woman missionary, or a woman celebrity or public official is allowed to speak.

Correctly, Bible reading, and even announcement-making should be made by men, not women.

If women understand that they are bringing joy and glory to God by remaining silent, they will not feel offended.  They will want to honor God.

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As modern people we come across Bible passages that go so hard against against our grain, emotionally, intellectually, and culturally, we just can't bring ourselves to embrace them.

The CORRECT procedure is to confess this to God and ask for his help.  Ask him what to do.

The WRONG procedure is to employ deception by wrongly interpreting the passage.

We are not going to fool God by dishonestly handling the passage.

My experience is that even sincere bible believers -- almost automatically, without thinking, do this.

Many many of them, or us, have been taught a system of interpretation, and with it this habit of falsifying a passage when we don't like it, or it is not politically palatable.

We need to accurately understand the passage and face the true meaning straight on.

If we just can't bring ourselves to do this, we should confess to God and ask for his guidance.

We are not fooling God.

If we proceed honestly, God will, from time to time, give us his special gems of truths.

If we are dishonest, I believe, God will rarely give us these special gems.

Let us consider the New Testament passage 1 Timothy chapter 2:

1I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

 2For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

 3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

 4Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

 5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

 6Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

 7Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.

 8I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

 9In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

 10But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

 11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

 12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

 13For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

 15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

There is, here, God's typical division of ministries between men and women.

The Old Testament, Proverbs 31 has this same division between men and women.

Men are to be directly concerned with ministry and duty to God, including governing.

Women's ministry, and of vital importance, involves good works of various kinds.

This includes, that most special ministry of child-birth and child-rearing.

Modern folks often object to verses 11-14 because women are not to teach, nor rule men.

The "standard heresy," I call it -- one of those politically correct, but dishonest, interpretive tricks -- is to say this applies only within churches.

This is false, the reasons given say nothing about a church.

Two reasons are given, one, women's greater propensity toward deception as evidenced by events in the Garden of Eden, --

-- And, two, God's deliberate, differential and complementary, purposes for the two genders, deliberately ordained in his Special Creation.

So this restriction really applies everywhere, in everything.

It applies throughout the secular world and society.

Obviously we see the massive disregard of this everywhere we look.

But, we should frankly acknowledge this.

WE SHOULD NOT FALSIFY INTERPRET THE PASSAGE, IN A DECEPTIVE ATTEMPT TO DO, OR TO HOLD WHAT'S POPULAR.

We should follow God's will everywhere possible, and this, likely will include our vocational choices.

Some women leading religious ministries feel, that since they are not in a church they can teach men.

This is absolutely false -- they are falsely interpreting the 1 Timothy 2 passage and sinning.

WE SEE A TOTALLY RIDICULOUS THING THAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS OR SO!

YOUNG PEOPLE BEING DEEMED AND CALLED "CHILDREN' EVEN UP TO AGE 18.

The press speaks of 17 year old boys and girls.

It is AMAZING how the public, including churches and their members, have blindly, stupidly swallowed this foolishness.

THROUGHOUT THE WORLD CHILDREN HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DEEMED YOUNG MEN OR WOMEN STARTING ABOUT AGE 12.

They reach sexual maturity.

Many churches have their "confirmations" and Jews have their Bar and Bat Mitvahs at 13.

This stupidity, which I am sure is deliberate on the part of the evil spirits, fools many folks.

Many churches feel women can teach teenage men, because they have been deemed "children."

Thus, the prohibition of women teaching men does not apply.

OH YES IT DOES!!!  IT ABSOLUTELY DOES APPLY.

Beginning at 12 years old they ARE young men and 1 Timothy 2 absolutely DOES apply.

This is serious, unconfessed, sin involving whole churches.

I want to consider one more passage - where modern bible makers are falsifying the bible.

Consider the New Testament book of Ephesians Chapter 5:20-33:

 20Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

 21Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

 22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

 23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

 24Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

 25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

 26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

 27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

 28So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

 29For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

 30For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

 31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

 32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

 33Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

In the last verse (33) the King James Bible correctly says, "reverence" her husband.

This goes very hard against political correctness.

Every modern bible, I've looked at say "respect" her husband.

The underlying Greek word is phobeō.

This is like in claustrophobia, or aqua-phobia -- it means FEAR.

It is NOT THE GREEK WORD FOR "RESPECT," AND IT DOES NOT MEAN RESPECT.

The King James Bible correctly translates it "reverence."

Much of the time -- God has NOT left us to the mercy of the Greek and Hebrew "experts."

The "context" comes to our rescue here and it completely rules out the word "respect."

Notice in the passage the clear parallel between (see verse 23) between Christ the head of the Church, and the man, being head of his wife.

Question: are Christians to "respect" Christ, OR, "reverence" Christ.

Obviously we are to "reverence" Christ.

In the absolute, direct parallel of this passage, then, the wife is to "reverence" her husband.

MODERN BIBLE MAKERS HAVE JUST PLAIN FALSIFIED THE BIBLE IN VERSE 33.

One must wonder where else they have falsified the bible to be politically correct, or to sell copies.

One last thought on this passage -- the husband is commanded to "love" his wife --

The wife is commanded to be "subject" to her husband.

These two are differential and complementary.

When the husband loves her, she will usually want to obey him --

When she obeys him, he can't help but love her.

God made men and women to be differential and complementary, physically, culturally, etc.

Thus, his Bible instructions are differential and complementary, to help us be as he wants, and to be as happy as possible.

I have many other web pages covering different aspects of topics in this article, and others.

You can see my other pages listed at the left hand of each page. 

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